MGR-1B Honest John Rocket Project (DD08)

Goal of this project, is to create an authentic looking model of this rocket here, the MGR-2 Honest John tactical missile.

MGR-1A  Honest John (on left)
MGR-1A Honest John (on left)
MGR-1B
MGR-1B

Second of my custom rocket construction projects. This is the also the 2nd of my semi-scale rocket builds. The first (DD05 V2) was mostly a simple modification of a single rocket kit. This project is based primarily on parts from an Estes LoadStar rocket kit, with significant modifications.

I decided to start off with the most challenging part of the build. Construction of the warhead section. The orginal real Honst John (MBG-1A and MGR-1B) had a rather unique bulged section to house the warhead. It took a few days of considering several methods of accomplishing this before it was clear that no intermediate tube was even required. Having all the parts I needed already I started the build.

Original LoadStar nose code and payload adaptor
Original LoadStar nose code and payload adaptor

Normally the parts are separated at the waist section in the middle, creating a seperate nose cone and payload adapter section. That middle part was not needed at all, and if used would have created a warhead section that looked very little like the original.  To produce the desired result, the upper and lower sections would be chemically welded together.

Nose cone and adapter sectioned.
Nose cone and adapter sectioned.

Following the fusing of two sections, fine filler was applied to all the joints and mold lines and set aside to harden.

Assembled, glued and filled warhead assembly
Assembled, glued and filled warhead assembly

After the filler dried, and finish sanding completed, the assembly has taken on the desired look.  The warhead’s boat tail is shorter on my semi-scale attempt than the real rocket.  This is an important point to consider later in the project.

Final wet sanding of the nose section.
Final wet sanding of the nose section.

Checking scale of the nose and body, compared to a good side view of the real deal.   Measuring, the photo was within 80% of the size of the final product.  Considering the boat tail on my warhead section is shorter, I adjusted the body section proportion to give me a good overall length and look.   Yes, this is a semi-scale project using off-the-shelf parts.

Double checking my scale calculations
Double checking my scale calculations

To be continued….

Construction History

11-Oct-2009
Began construction of custom warhead section from LoadStar nose and payload adapter.

12-Oct-2009
Finish sanding of the nose section. Checking scale and calculating a reasonable body tube length.

Flying fleet continues to expand

The collection of flying rockets continues to expand.

FLEET (l. to r.)  220Swift, Sprint, Fire Streak, Viking, DD05 (V2 semi-scale), Pheonix, DD06 (docked Taser w/ L.E.D. payload), Big Betty, DD07 (custom Bertha w/ payload)
FLEET (l. to r.) 220Swift, Sprint, Fire Streak, Viking, DD05 (V2), Phoenix, DD06 (Taser mod.), Big Betty, DD07 (custom)

DD05

This is a semi-custom design.  Based on an Estes Baby Bertha rocket kit.  Extended nose cone and scale V2 fins make this look similar to the world changing V2 Ballistic Missile of WWII.  Rocket was still awaiting final finish paint at time of photo.  [ Full Project Writeup ]

DD06

Design is more of a repair and subsequent enhancement of an existing rocket (Estes Taser).  Following water damage at the base of the body tube, I sectioned about 2″ from it, and re-affixed the poly engine and fin assembly.  The top red payload section is from parts ordered online.  The L.E.D. payload (for night flights) comes from Halloween skull decorations (like the white plastic skull far right).  A pair of night flights proved the rocket to be a good flyer and the lights made night recovery very easy.   Night rocket launches are fun!

DD07

Constructed completely from spare parts attached to a large Estes BT-55 body tube that I ordered online.  The fins and nose cone came the Baby Bertha kit.  Launch lug and payload section came from an Estes Payloader rocket (which was parted out for another project DD08).  Engine mount was constructed from scratch based on patterns from other kits and a home-made mild steel engine retainer clip.

V2 Rocket Project (DD05)

Effort chronicled of converting an Estes Baby Bertha rocket kit into a semi-scale representation of a V2 rocket. Semi-scale because I’m not ready to construct the boat-tail rocket body just yet.

Estes Baby Bertha

estt1261Original Kit Estes Baby Bertha is not really close to a V-2 rocket in look, beyond the stubby body and a faint similarity in the fins, oh and the number of fins (4).

German V-2 Vergeltungswaffe

my_v2As you can see from this diagram the V2 Rocket has a much longer, oglive type of nose section and much shorter fins:


Starting the Modifications

The first order of business is to get as close a representation as possible of the V2 fins. Do do this I’m simply going to scale up a planform drawing of the V-2, to match that of the kit. I measured out overall body length of the modified rocket (with new BT-60 Estes plastic nose cone) to 310mm.

V-2_fins_full-scale

My printer is not quite large enough to print the full 310mm, so I have cut the image at the CL of the rocket body mass (at 157mm). But first I had to calculate how much additional length to the overall rocket was required for the section of fun extending below the fuselage. It turned out to be 3%. So the total overall plan image is is 322mm. However the total image size my printer will handle is 251mm. The simplest thing to do was to cut off the top 71mm from the image and print it.

This up-scaled view was compared to the target size, which matched, and the final fin design was based on this image.

Baby V-2

As it turned out, the fin is very close in size and style between the two rockets. In fact the root length is identical.
Baby Bertha vs. V-2 Fin Design

The new fin plan was laid out on fresh 3/32″ balsa wood ($3.00 at the local hobby shop), and 4 fins were constructed from the pattern (seen here).

V-2 Fin Pattern

Rule: When laying out fins, never run the root of the fin parallel to the grain of the wood. Doing so will seriously compromise the strength of the resulting fin, and possibly cause in flight detachment. It’s not only important to NOT have the grain parallel to the fin root, but every effort should be made to make the parallel to the fin’s leading edge! A recent construction error on my part had the grain running parallel on 2 fins, and perpendicular to leading edge on two others. The two with the perpendicular orientation are VERY FLEXIBLE and might sheer off in flight. So, really, there is only one ‘right’ way to orient the grain of your fins.

Following the cut-out of fins, they were sanded on all sides to equalize size, and straighten cut edges. These are no laser cut fins, this is old school fin construction circa 1970’s.

Once glued to the body, and fin joints suitable filleted, rocket is left to dry for 8 hours.

fins_2631 fins_2632 fins_2633
fins_glued_2636

Next order of business is construction of the engine mount. The rocket body is much larger than the engine mount itself, so it requires the user of centering rings. These are stamped out of fiber board at the factory. What they charge for a motor mount kit is more than an entire rocket kit (crazy). Going along with the experimental theme of this rocket I have taken it upon my self to partially fabricate the motor mount myself.

The most challenging part is getting just the right diameters on the centering rings. So I have taken a Sharpy and darkened the die-punched rings in original kit, photocopied them, and glued the resulting pattern to some 3/32″ balsa (first photo). The original die-cut rings were marked with the body size (BT-60) and filed for future use. Cutting them out from the balsa, I affixed them to the main motor mount tube (blue) and sanded the edges smooth. Once the glue had setup on the mount, the assembly was installed in the rocket body according to the original specifications (last photo). Inside of the body tube is coated with glue.

Fabricating the motor mount centering rings from balsa
Fabricating the motor mount centering rings from balsa
Completed motor mount (standard A-B-C size casing)
Completed motor mount (standard A-B-C size casing)
Motor mount installed and cemented into rocket body
Motor mount installed and cemented into rocket body

The recovery system was also modified, based on the parachute I found in one of the vintage rockets I have from yesteryear. I recall ‘back in the day’ that a lot of the parachute recovery systems for these rockets had an opening in the top to accelerate decent and to keep drift manageable. I was happy to find that the oldest rocket I have still has it’s parachute and that chute has the original markings for the fast-descent configuration!

I took it’s pattern, transferred it to the new chute and replicated the modification. On a side note, the fast-descent chute I pulled from the old Bull-Pup 12D rocket was installed in my modified payload carrying Taser and it worked great! So I’m confident this will not result in too rapid a descent.

Old style Estes fast-descent chute
Old style Estes fast-descent chute
Pattern aplied to new chute
Pattern aplied to new chute
Final result of modification
Final result of modification

Application of ‘ Dope‘ sanding sealer on the balsa parts, letting that dry and priming the body in white paint was next.

Rocket after first coat of white sanding primer
Rocket after first coat of white sanding primer
Final result of priming and sanding.
Final result of priming and sanding.

It’s first test flight was planned for the 4th, but wind was just too high. Here is the new Rocket next to the rest of the current flying fleet for a little size comparison.

Flying fleet: (l-r)  Taser,  220Swift, Viking, V2 thing.
Flying fleet: (l-r) Taser, 220Swift, Viking, V2 thing.

While I was prepping the rocket, painting, sanding what have you, there was nagging issue. Well, two nagging issues:

  • The fins looked too large
  • Two of the 4 fins seemed excessively flexible.

I pulled out my scale renderings of the rocket, and had a major DOH! moment. While working up the drawings, there was an over sized and properly scaled diagram printed on opposite sides of a sheet of paper. I must have been interrupted because despite all my efforts to create the 2nd, properly scaled layout, I used the older OVER SIZED layout for the rocket fins. The V2 looked more like something Jules Verne drawn, to get to the moon.

Combined with what I deduced was a major construction flaw (the wrong grain direction on the fins), I really had not choice but to CUT off the fins and start that part of the project over. So, I did just that.

GOOD and BAD fins.  I highlighted the grain direction to point out what you should NOT do.  Really it does make a difference!
GOOD and BAD fins. I highlighted the grain direction to point out what you should NOT do. Really it does make a difference!
Rocket stripped of it's fins.  Getting all the glue and balsa off the body eventually required a heavy wood file.
Rocket stripped of it's fins. Getting all the glue and balsa off the body eventually required a heavy wood file.
Comparison of my fin size issue.  The outside area is the actual fin I first created.  The paper pattern is the correct size.  Big difference.
Comparison of my fin size issue. The outside area is the actual fin I first created. The paper pattern is the correct size. Big difference.

A couple of hours of work went into removing the old fins, creating the new fins, cutting off all the old material, filing, sanding and installing the new fins. Almost back to square one, but I have the right size fins and the right grain direction on all the fins. I feel much better about flying this rocket in the next few days, than the previous incarnation.

Reconstructed.  Some body putty to fix tube damage is seen at top.  Everything has to be sanded again.
Reconstructed. Some body putty to fix tube damage is seen at top. Everything has to be sanded again.

After hours of additional filling, sanding and repair the fist of the yellow base coats were applied. Again the Valspar pain (about $4.00 a can) resulted in a very nice smooth color. This photo was after only a single coat. the final coat really looked great.

DD05  V2  model (left)   Quest Sprint model (right)
DD05 V2 model (left) Quest Sprint model (right)

Video of first test launch. You can see the nice slow liftoff. This was with a small A-class engine so altitude is not very high.

A couple of days later the final filling and sanding was completed, yellow base coat applied and ready for application of the test pattern masks.

DD05  final base coat applied
DD05 final base coat applied

And here is the final result. After a day of the paint drying, mask removed and we have the DD05 V2 semi-scale rocket model.

DD05 V2 final paint
DD05 V2 final paint

It was modeled after this actual rocket, seen here during testing at White Sands New Mexico.
space_v2

Here is another on display at the Museum in White Sands.
V2-wsmr-new010


Construction History

29-Sep-2009
Construction started. Fin design finalized. Fins cut. BT-60 body tube marked for fins.

30-Sep-2009
Fins sanded to size. Fin markings on rocket body compared to V-2 side elevation for positioning. Fins installed and filleted.

5-Oct-2009
Primed and ready for a test flight. Final color schemed undecided. However a potential construction error on my part might ground the rocket due to incorrect balsa grain direction on 2 of the 4 fins.

6-Oct-2009
REBUILDING FINS: As much as I did not want too, I cut off the incorrectly built fins. I took photos that show how I botched the first ones. Body needs to be sanded, new fins made and attached.

7-Oct-2009
Priming, sanding, priming, sanding. Repairing damage to the main body tube from removal of the larger fins. Also used a commercial sanding sealer (really nasty stuff) on the balsa fins. It adds weight but it provides a nicer finish in return.

8-Oct-2009
More sanding and priming of the body. It’s just about ready for it’s final paint job, and I’ve finally decided on the scheme. A post WWII test pattern used on captured V2 rockets tested at the White Sands facility. I’m still tempted to paint in the ragged desert camo, but I also want to be able to find the thing when it lands!

10-Oct-2009
First coats of the base body color applied. First 2 test flights performed with great success. It’s a very nice flying rocket. It’s additional weight gives it a slightly slower and more realistic takeoff. The size of the rocket body also makes it easier to track in the sky.

13-Oct-2009
Project Completed! Final sanding, base and test pattern applied.

Video game classic.

While watching some Anime that the kids enjoy watching on Saturday mornings, a character appeared that was so similar to this great video game villan, I just HAD to find these videos. The first, being the original, the second being a rather amusing techo-mashup.

After all, what technologist would be raising his kids properly, without them knowing such uber-geeky things.

Enjoy these classics!

42 Second origin of it all

LINK: Click to watch – YouTube was down at the time I wrote this. I’ll try to remember to embed the video when YouTube comes back

Techno Mashup Version (about 4 min.)

History:

All about AYBABTU at Wikipedia