Brushless Motor Classifications

Information borrowed from XHeli.com. Place here so I can easily print it.

The 450TH is widely accepted as a great T-Rex helicopter motor, extreme speed in Wings and Jets. The 450F is still undergoing testing but well liked by all helicopter guys. Having a 2.3mm axle for helicopter’s makes it very versatile and useful in gearboxes for planes upto 4 lbs and since you can slide off the bell the 450F is easily modified to a 2250 KV pusher or tractor for direct drive or left at 3450 Tractor or pusher. The lower KV motor is known as the 450FT. I don’t recommend use of the 450F direct drive on Jets and Wings as it spins just too fast, the 450TH is about the upper limit for direct drive on a decent size 6 inch prop. The mod to this motor will enable you to run a 7×5, 8×5 prop with authority. See the data on the 450FT technical page .

Many of you have been asking "What Motor for a specific plane or helicopter". I am thinking of putting together a motor selection guide but for now let’s see if I can provide some information that will help.

Quick rule of thumb – 100-120 Watts per pound provides an excellent experience.

Up to 1 pound plane use : 300DF, 300ST, 400ST, 400T

Up to 2 pound plane use : 400F, 400DF, 450XT

Up to 3 pound plane use : 450TH, 450F, 450FT

T-Rex Heli – 450TH on 13T 3.17mm, or 450F on 10T 2.3mm pinion. For longer run time and less power – 400DH on 9T, 2.3mm.

Shogun Heli – 400DH – 8T pinion

3D Pro Heli – 400DF – 15T pinion

Direct drive – 300DF on 1 pound or lower weight Wings, Depron Jets, 400T – Overlord Wing, Slow and high thrust wings on 8 inch prop, 400F fast and agile on 6×4 prop 3S, 400DF – very fast on 5 inch prop – less thrust, 450FT – excellent on any size plane 7 or 8 inch prop, 450TH – extreme for over 100mph on wings and jets on a 5-6 inch prop.

450TH is an extremely powerful motor, which is most popular in the T-Rex at 3S on a 13T pinion 3.17mm pinion for 2600 RPM, 4S on an 11T pinion for upto 3300 RPM. This motor is available in 3.17mm axle tractor, 2.3mm tractor for gearing in large planes or extreme performance on medium size planes and 3mm pusher format for over 100 mph in Jets and Wings. The 3.17mm bell is locked on the motor.

450F is also and extremely powerful motor that is slightly more versatile than the TH since the bell is removeable on all models. This works well on the T-Rex with a 10T 2.3mm pinion, the same bell runs well geared in airplanes. For a direct drive motor please consider the 450FT.

450FT is a modification to the 450F that you can perform yourself by purchasing a medium speed bell. Pull the 450F bell of and slide on the new medium speed bell and you have just converted the 450F from 3450 KV to 2250 KV. Now you can run 7 and 8 inch prop with authority on your plane, jet, wing.t

450XT drive with upto 11 inch propellors. A 9×9 properllor is excellent for speed. If you have a large 3D airplane – this is the motor for you.

400DH continues to be an extremely popular motor for the Shogun and T-Rex. I recommend an 8T pinion on the shogun, and 9T on the T-Rex. This will provide longer flight times than the 450TH and 3D capability, but not the same insane power that the 450TH provides.

400DF is ideal on the Century 3D Pro Helicopter on a 15T Pinion. This motor is also well liked on pushers (Jets and Wings) and geared is very powerful. Swap bells to go from 3mm pusher to 2.3mm tractor for gearing in a 400 size gearbox.

400F is the same KV (RPM Speed) as the 450FT and very efficient, ideal with a 6×4 prop on a direct drive plane, jet or wing and excellent geared 3:1.

400T is very popular in slope soarers, park flyers and warbirds.

300DF is well liked in depron jets, wings and planes under 16 oz’s and although not 3D, can provide high speed direct drive, or can be geared 3:1 for running larger props and planes.

400ST is ideal in direct drive planes and 3D flying planes

300ST is for very light weight and ideal in light weight planes and 3D planes.

N450V2A – Hover Testing

Finally, it was time to see if this thing would fly. And, if I can fly it!

This outing was my best yet! 3 full packs flown, no crashes, no rotor strikes, and only 1 really hard landing! I (of course) shot some video and uploaded it to my YouTube bucket.

Not never exciting to watch, it was pretty exciting to get it off the ground without flying back into it out of control! This is pretty fun stuff! Plus the gear-head part of me really loves all the micro-mechanical parts and seeing how they function together and make it fly!

N450V2A Overhaul – Completed

Tonight, I’m picking up where I left off yesterday [LINK], while I listen to some awesome local High School Radio (KNHC).

Sunday nights from 6PM -> Midnight is Industrial and Alt music show called ‘On the Edge‘. Reminds me of a similar show that used too broadcast on KFJC out of Foothill College in the Bay Area. Most of my good German Industrial music collection was the direct result of hearing it on that show.

Back to the Overhaul
I’ve been doing some research today on blade balancing. Picked up a couple of new tricks, talked to a few of the local experts and I’ve come up with what I feel is a comprehensive, but not exhaustive (aka anal retentive) balancing strategy. Here is my take on this VERY IMPORTANT task:

First off, getting some good tracking tape has proven to be a major challenge for me. Today I solved that problem, thanks to advice of a local flyer. He’s been using Monokote (I’m quite familiar with the heat-shrink version of it, having first used it almost 30 years ago). I picked up a high-vis red and contrasting orange in the adhesive backed variety.

Preparing to balance blades.

I don’t plan to balance the other 4 sets of blades I have tonight, just the set I’ll be using for the final run-ups once I have the bird back together.

The first step in balancing, is to find the COG (Center of Gravity) on each blade. I did this by rolling each blade on top of a spare flybar rod (it’s about 3mm in diameter) until I found the balance point. Once I did that I marked it with a permanent marker. This is done for both blades. The purpose of this is to determine how much balance weight you need to add to get the blades balanced our along each blade itself. Ideally you take the lighter of the two blades (if you have a scale that’s easier to determine, otherwise your normal blade balancing fixture will tell this tail), apply weight in the right locations to get both blades to have the exact same COG. I’ve done this already, the top blade has a little clear plastic tape used to weight it on the right side. Here the COG’s are in the same location on both blades.

Locating the center of gravity on each blade

Next I’m going to take equal pieces of the adhesive backed monokote, and apply a different color to the tips of each blade. Make sure the size of the monokote you apply to each is identical. They must also be applied in identical locations. Here is what it should look like *before* performing the final balance.

Adding contrasting blade tip colors. Critical to setting blade tracking

Next, set up the balancing rig and dynamically balance out the blades. Any weight, if required should be added to the light blade at it’s COG (which is why it’s marked across the pitch). Even though these blades are very close in overall balance, one blade does need a little bit more, to fully balance it out.

Blades on jig for balancing.

Once balanced, I moved back to the process of rebuilding the head. I had a lot of experience with the V2 head, but not the older Version 1 head that I had to buy parts for (no V2 parts available locally or online from the plethora of vendors, odd really). Interwebs to the rescue! I found an original ALIGN 450SE (v1) build manual with the exploded view of the V1 head!

ALIGN 450SE (version 1) exploded head view. (click image to enlarge)

Somewhere in the box of parts is the main head, and all it’s associated bearings.

Box of 450 class helicopter parts

The most important bag today, the main rotor head and blade grip components

There are a lot of parts that go into the grips alone! That’s 6 bearings, 2 spacers, 2 washers and 2 bolts, not to mention the 4 o-rings (dampners) and the feathering shaft itself (already installed in head).
Layout of all the parts required to assemble the upper rotor head.  Look at all those bearings!

Having the instructions made assembly straight forward and quick. It took longer to write this pragraph and take the photo, than it did to put together, install, locktite and tighten the grips. They seem very firm and turn very smoothly. A HUGE improvement over what I was attempting with the hybrid V2 guts and V1 components. I knew better, but I wanted to see how close I could get. Not close enough. At any rate, here it is, assembled.

Blade grips installed. This is a partially assembled main rotor head top-end.

The next step is to attach the rest of the upper head’s running gear. The flybar seesaw holder was a little problematic. Gunk in the bushings had it binding up. Finally resorting to application of some firearms cleaning techniques (and fluids) cleared up the gunk. Re-application of all locktites was of course required after being exposed to solvents. Added a little CLP to the bushings to keep the running smooth. Pitch arms were next and those when back together without drama. This is what I have now;

This is a fully assembled main rotor head top-end.

It was finally time to bolt the head to main shaft, insert flybar, line up the washout shafts and block, hook up swash coupling links and get ready to finish the top-end rebuild of this bird.

Upper, middle and lower sections of main rotor head assembled and installed. Swash Plate is that beast of link buttons on the bottom.

While upgrading parts, I decided to swap out the temporary Blade 300 flybar paddles (smaller, top) for the larger genuine ALIGN 450 parts. They are basically twice as thick, have actual airfoils and weight 8.8g, compared to the Blade 400 units which are 2.7g. The orginal EXI flybar blades come in at 4.7g. I tossed them out. One was not factory drilled for the flybar, so I just sorta hogged it out during original construction. Turns out that alignment of that bore is really important to the overall flight characteristics of the bird! They are gone, just in case I forget why they are no longer in use, and put them on something. I’m better off with the flimsy B400 paddles than one that is not drilled properly. Many lessons in these little things.

Temporary parts (top) vs. the right parts (bottom). Flybar paddles are critical to all Bell-Hiller head aircraft.

Installed, centered, measured, re-measured, checked for square, re-measured down to .001″ inch. with dial calipers. I’m sure how to get it any more accurately constructed than this! With the blades installed, it’s time to perform the first run-up and blade tracking test. Really, about 9 hours of work comes down to the this moment of truth. Fixed, same or (gulp) worse?

Assembled and ready for ground tests. Stand by for....

This video contains the first run-up, before blade tracking was adjusted. Next was post-tracking adjustment. Overall vibration has been reduced significantly! With the replaced bearings and slightly slower head speed the entire things sounds healthier too. Another view in the video displays the blade tracking, and finally a fully assembled bird is run up to 3/4 throttle. A test of the throttle cut and auto-rotation flare action is also examined for function.

Everything looks great and ready for another test flight! Local time on the Pacific Coast here is 23:07. A little too late for test flights. The plan is to give it some air time after work tomorrow.

One other thing I noticed, was that flybar action is much smoother since I completely tore down the head and rebuilt it.

The upside of all this, is that I’m 100% confident I can repair any damage done during a crash, including a full frame up-reconstruction. At some point this fall I’ll probably swap out the metal frame for a V2 carbon fiber setup (about $30). That will drop quite a bit of weight off, and going to a CF tail boom will also shed some weight. The less the entire thing weighs, the less power it will use to remain aloft, which equates to lower operating temperatures for bearings, and longer flight times with the same batteries.

Now, I rest.

Model Helicopter Blade Balancing – preliminary research

Since I was not 100% certain of the proper method of blade balancing, I’ve started up this page. You see, until 9:00AM this morning I was certain how to properly balance blades. However, after reading the ALIGN Trex450SE instructions, which contain this diagram, I’m not at all certain.

Blade Balancing instructions from the ALIGN Trex Instructions.

Up until now, I had placed the blades trailing edges flat on a table, then tightened the balancing tool, and placed it on the jig. The objective was to have the trailing edges of the blades perfectly level. Here is what it looks like:

My orginal blade balancing method.

I hope you can see the difference in how I placed the blades together, compared to to what the Align manual suggests. Here is a closeup to help illustrate how I used to do this:
Closeup of my balancing method.

Compare this to using the ALIGN documented method:

Using the ALIGN balancing method.

As you can see here, not only does it appear quite different, so is the result! Using this method, my blades are out of balance. Or, are they?

ALIGN balancing method

Now, I’ve gone out and searched and consulted with the great oracles on this subject (the R/C discussion groups) and found the following:

On one of the most helpful sites I’ve found on the web, Mikey demonstrates the blade balancing using the same method, that seemed intuitive to me. Here is a screen shot from the video:

One balance method seen online.

Checking another forum, I found the following this post that discusses first locating the COG (Center of Gravity) on the blades and marking them. Or balancing the COG on the blades so they are the same blade-to-blade, THEN getting them in dynamic balance:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=878885&highlight=blade+balancing

Hm. there seems to be MUCH more to getting a really great balance on your blades than meets the eye! With the vibration issues I’ve been happening, I’m going to do everything I can to provide as stable a main blade balance as possible.

What is most clear at the point, is that I have A LOT more reading to do. PART 2 will follow once I decide on exactly how I will be balancing my blades. The question of the afix orientation of the blades perists, even after I find the COG of the blades.

This link here looks to be the most concise explaination of a balancing method. [LINK]

N450V2A Overhaul – Day 1

I’ve had a few good flights, and few bad flights with the N450V2A. After locating a nasty wobble and some incorrectly manufactured parts, I’ve torn the bird down to just about the bare bones and have started a re-construction.

Starting here with this picture, I have already performed the following.

Replaced the Main bearings in the main bearing blocks. One of the old bearings had a bit of a ‘notchiness’ to it so I tracked down some replacement parts, including two pairs of original Align factory main bearings (5x11x5mm). $6.49.

Old EXI main bearings (red) and new Align main bearings (nude)

They are installed at the top of the frame, and in middle, just above the main gearset (in blue). The main gearset has already been replaced with at genuine factory Align part AGNH1218 $22.99

Mainshaft and main gearset.

The original Pentium 30A ESC (Electronic Speed Control) was showing signs of overloading and causing in-flight resets! In defense of HobbyWing, it looks like I was running too steep a pinion on the main motor (I’ll get to that later). Regardless, I wanted to make SURE I did not have to learn auto-rotation landing in my first few weeks of flying. So I purchased a new genuine Align 35A ESC with Governor, PN 35ABLESC GOVMD5VBEC RCE-BL $53.99. It’s installed high on the frame now, where the battery would normally be located. I did this to help ensure good air flow along it’s heat sink.

New ALIGN 35ABLESC GOVMd5vBEC RCE-BL Speed Controller

As mentioned, it turns out the that original 13T pinon which came with the EXceedRC Alpha 400 63N18 motor is not an appropriate selection. It was suggest that I run either an 11T or 12T pinion by several people online. The local hobby shop had a pretty knowledgeable flyer behind the counter, and suggest a 12T would make a big difference. It’s also the suggested pinion for the factory Align Trec450 V2 (of which mine is a clone). Having already ordered an 11T pinion, I purchased the 12T. Original 13T is on the right, new 12T Align part on the left:

Main drive pinions. New 12T ALIGN part (left) and original ExceedRC 13T part I'm replacing, on the right.

The motor itself might be OK. I’m going to re-use it for now. Another is on the way from Hobbypartz.com price about $20.00. The pinion is only firmly mounted on the shaft, since it will have to be precisely adjusted for main gear engagement once I re-install the motor in the frame.

Motor re-mounted and gear mesh very carefully set.

Next I went about trying to get the main bearings and main shaft running as true and consistent as possible. The bottom bearing has some manufactured in lateral play, nothing I can do about that. But I did manage to snug up the shaft to bearing interface with some very light knurling of the main shaft where it contacts the lower bearing. Additional play looks like it will come out with a slight ‘cocking’ of the upper bearing. Just enough to produce a natural tendancy to run straight. I have plenty of bearings now. One of my next objectives will be to take the extra bearings I have to an expert bearing distributor and see if a higher-quality bearing is available in the same dimensions.

Mainshaft re-installed for the umteenth time.

After all that work, the main shaft finally looks like it’s running true. The dial indicator is still picking up some movement, but it’s about 1/2 or perhaps less than it was originally. I think I managed to take at least a little play out of the main drive system, and that makes very hopeful for some major flight improvements.

Rechecking main shaft runout.

Taking all these parts off, I think it wise to re-check the swash plate level, just in case it something got bent, twisted or otherwise tweaked. Placed the 450 swash leveling took on the plate, and it was dead on! I ordered the tool from XHeli.com (it’s an EXI too) for around $3.50. Well worth the investment. When I checked my ‘by eye’ leveling with the tool I found I was pretty far out. Sure it’s a fair bit more labor to tear down the head to use the tool, but having such a core component as close to perfect spec as humanly possible seems like a wise use of one’s time. Maybe it’s not, but I did it.

Carefully re-checking swash plate angle with swash fixure.

Having conquered my fears of the main shaft, time to rebuild the rotor head from the swash pate up. First thing I want to tackle is the top of the head, sort of going in reverse order. It turns out my latest blade grip purchase, to replace the broken grip, wss of the WRONG PART. My model is a Version 2, and the parts I got, unbeknown to me, were Version 1. Barely close, certainly not the cigar. Now today I did pick up a full compliment of Version 1 parts. Combined with the plastic Version 1 head ($7.99) and 2 pairs of grips($13.99) from the other day, I should be able to assemble a very tight and very functional main rotor head. My ideal scenario would be to re-use the original allow EXI head (left) instead of the new Align plastic Version 1 head (right).

Main Rotor head types. EXI Version 2 (left) and ALIGN Version 1 (right).

It turns out the the V1 head (right) and the alloy V2 original head (left) are identical in width, and the ID of the feathering shaft ($7.99 for three) holes are also identical. The only difference (beyond material) is a more pronounced shoulder in the V1 head. Fit wise though, they tested out (to the best of my abilities) the same! This is very encouraging! All I need to do now is figure out how the V1 head systems is supposed to go together!

Confirmation of compatibility. Rebuild is a GO!

It’s about 1:00AM now. No need to work all night on this thing. I’ll pick this another day, maybe tomorrow, maybe I’ll go ride a motorcycle instead.

POV Camera mounted on EXI-450A

Wednesday was a pretty good day. It marked the arrival of a mini-DVR camera I’ve wanted to buy for quite some time. It went on sale for Fathers day at nearly 1/2 price. I just could not pass up the deal!

Mini DVR Camera

The location of the aperture is not perfect, but I can work with it. In fact I have a new canopy on the way from Hong Kong, that will be cut so I can mount the camera forward of main rotor head, and a little lower to make sure it’s not at risk of a blade strike. In the mean time I have a mount position rear of the main rotor that works OK. I like to have a little bit of the helicopter in view to give some perspective.

Here is an in-door run-up test of the camera.

Having found a suitable location, and even though I’ve still not sorted out the mystery vibration in the main drive train, I wanted to take it out for a flight, and shoot some POV video off the helicopter.

Here is the POV video:

Unfortunately, this was the aftermath of the crash. Broken main blade grip. That really annoying part is that this one of those 2% of the parts that is NOT directly ALIGHN TRex 450 compatible.

EXI-450A V2 main blade grip failure. Good grip (top) broken (middle). Also in photo are the various bearings used by main grips.

I’m able to source ALIGN 450 parts at the LHS (local hobby shop), but these design of these are so different that I don’t think I can use them. The bearings are the same size but they mount in different locations, and I think it’s allowing the blade grips to shift a few thousandths of an inch off-center, making what I know to already to be a nasty run-out on the main shaft, even worse. I’m fairly certain that it’s not an issue with the shaft itself, since I have 4 of them now (1 original and 3 replacements) and they are all showing the same runout when mounted in the drive system (video below shows the problem I am having).

You may notice wobble in the in-flight POV video. That’s not the camera. That’s actually the helicopter when it gets into this harmonic resonance with the main shaft vibration. It can be pretty nasty, and it certaily didn’t help me when I lost control and crashed.

I’m doing some research, consulting with the great oracles, and just trying to sort out the possible cause of the strange shaft run-out. So far, I’ve come across the solution, or solved this problem myself. Here is a video of the some testing I’ve done to quantify the issue:

iPad sales hit 3 million units

Apple says iPad sales hit 3 million. Wow.. that’s A LOT of people buying something that a lot of the geek cognisti and Windoze apologists said was an under-powered POS that any Windoze tablet (too bad none really exists, isn’t it?) would smoke.

Sounds like the nay-sayers on this thing need to buy a clue.

I don’t own one, but I’ve used them. They are VERY slick devices. The UI is wonderfully executed. Personally, I’m going to hold out for the 2nd generation one iPad. With 3 million sold already I think Apple can say they have a hit on their hands! 🙂

Apple says iPad sales hit 3 million as shares climb

Also of interest, is reading this article, about how once you go Apple, people tend to not go back to what they were using before:

What makes Apple so sticky

For a product that seemed to some ‘experts’ to not have a purpose, or any differentiating quality that would compel people to buy it, I find it amusing that they are having a hard time keeping up with the demand?

Two of my favorite Porsche ads, ever.

The first one was basically me. On the wall of my bedroom, I have a pencil drawing of a 911 I did in high school.

My Porsche drawing from 1981

VIDEO: → Porsche – The Boy

The second is the introduction video for the 993 (that last one I owned, so far). The cool thing was that I’d found the audio for the video, tossed it on my iPod and played it on my trip to CA. It just happened to start playing these tracks as I drive through the tree archway into Napa on a great sunny day. One of those top-25 memories I’ll die with.

VIDEO: →993-Are You Listening (1995)

EXI-450 Helicopter Build – Day 7 + First Flight!

After fighting with the gyro for a day, I finally cleared the programming on the DX6i and re-did ALL of it. I learned a few more things along the way. This is the final, current configuration that actually let me fly! I won’t pretend to say this is an optimal or even suggested setup, but it’s the one I came up with. Maybe this helps some others get their stuff off the ground.

DX6i EXI-450 Programming Ver. 2
Dual Rate & Expo
  Aileron Elevator Rudder
AIL D/R 0 100% INHibited 100% INHibited 100% INHibited
AIL D/R 1 100% INHibited 100% INHibited 100% INHibited
Travel Adjust
  Note: You need to move the sticks to access both travel directions, this was an important lesson!
  Throttle Elevator Gyroscope Aileron Rudder Pitch
  ↑100%
↓100%
↑125%
↓125%
↑100%
↓100%
←125%
→125%
←100%
→100%
↑125%
↓125%
Sub Trims
  Throttle Elevator Gyroscope Aileron Rudder Pitch
  0 ↑30 0 ←17 →42 ↑63
Gyro
  0 (flap-0) 1 (gyro-1>  
SW-GYRO 60.0% 70.0%  
Throttle Curve
  Low 1/4 1/2 3/4 Full  
Normal 0 % 25% 50% 85% 100%  
Stunt* 0 % 20% 40% 40% 40%  
Hold 0.0 %  
Pitch Curve
  Low 1/4 1/2 3/4 Full  
Normal 25% 50% 67% 82% 100%  
Stunt* 15 % 25% 25% 25% 25%  
Hold 0% 10% 10% 10% 10%  
Swash Mixing
Swash Aileron Elevator Pitch
  – 60% – 60% + 60%
Channel Mixing
  Master Slave Rate D U Sitch Trim
Mix 1 INHibited
Mix 2 INHibited
Revo Mix
  UP DOWN  
Normal 0 % 0 %  
Stunt 0 % 0 %  
DX6i EXI-450 Setup Ver. 2
Reverse
  Throttle Elevator Gyroscope Aileron Rudder Pitch
  Normal Reverse Normal Reverse Reverse Normal
Swash Type
  CCPM 120°
Throttle Cut
  Position ACTIVE
Dual Rate Combination Assignment
  Dual Rate Switch INHibited
Power Setting
  B-US 247
* NOTE: I have set the Stunt settings for my own safety, not for actual stunt flying. If you use those settings you’ll end up with a bird in the ground, but at least it’s less likely to go full-throttle without you expecting if, if you do something really stupid (like me) and flip the mode from NORMAL to STUNT without thinking.

Following the re-build of the tail setup, removed gyro.. server testing.. reprogramming.. it all led up to the first *real* flight of the 450. Even in some pretty good wind!

Despite the bluster, the heli flew, and the gyro seemed to hold to any heading I set! This was FUN!

Despite bouncing off the pavement, I had a big fat grin as I walked home. I’d built the helicopter, I’d flown it, crashed it and flew it again. Now it’s time to learn to *really* fly this thing! 🙂